Nasfy, GMG2 huu, I checked the term and the only thing I found was = Gay Marries Gay Too. So, you're a gay scared to come out of the box, big sorry deal. Be proud dude, come out and disclose your gay sexuality, it's ok, we're tolerable people with the gays. You totally miss the point prick (think prick as a compliment). I was trying to tell your ass brain that you needn't be a navy toilet gay cleaner in order "to be all you can be". Prick I am a citizen you like it or not. You're a corn head and a prick (again think of it as a compliment). You can claim that your shithole house is your country, you can also claim your Indiana town is your country only because you're retarted. It hurts your stomach I know, but while you were cleaning toilets in the Philippines and taking it up the ass the gunners' way, I was having premium American education to enable myself enjoy all I want in what this wonderful country of mine so generously offers to its citizens--::)) Now what else have you got prick?
Personality,tolerance,temperance,and opinion. Here is an impasse that is not going to be summited by verbal bashings, impuning each others` respective countries, politicizing or personalizing. Men need to beat the hell out of each other ,then sit down and have a Pepsi together. Unfortunately,we cannot do that in the confines of electronic wordage. So,it is left to us to become greater than our own disagreements-to know that there will simply not be an answer ( or debate) with a righteous and outspoken solution,despite the innately certain feeling of being correct. Know when to move on. Men should know this about women,too,because sometimes even being right is wrong.
Ohh jet, I am impressed by your ability to analyze and dive into the depths of one's personality. Call me foreigner, I care less, the fact is I have family, I vote and make it a habit to do so each time, I have property and property rights, I have seen and known more about the U.S.A. than the dumb ass from Indiana. Regarding your "presumably care less" remark, I am interested to hear your analysis of the evidence that suggests there is a possibility that while I am married, I am looking for another woman::)) I, on the other hand, would suggest to you to avoid conclusions using your not so great intuition alone.
spirit, the GMG2 guy has a personality gift to provoke. I am not letting him down, his insults are not going unanswered. Because he's got nothing on me, he's making broad claims about pictures that he heard someone saying that he read somewhere that someone said he had seen ... Nasfy has seen nothing, he has no personal knowledge or facts and that makes him a hoax, which is no surprise.
Trav - I refered to you as a foreigner because you are living in Greece. I could have given the entire argument concerning your citizenship, your voting practices, and how much of the US you have seen compared to anyone - but it seems that that would have made my answer a little longer than I intended.
Regarding the use of the word "presumably"... I "assume because I have no knowledge to the contrary."
Is the sentence more to your liking if I say:
"One of them, I assume, because I have no knowledge to the conrary, is interested in attracting an FSU woman, the other two (I also assume, because I have no knowledge to the contrary) couldn't care less.
I don't know why you are here. With my sentence I certainly gives you the benefit of the doubt that you are not here to pursue FSU women, but I would never pretend to know.
Now let me step out of the way, and you can commence to beating each other silly again.
For the record - in my original post I used the adjective regarding you (Two "foreign" guys...). Meaning Belonging to, located in, characteristic of, or concerne with another country. Are you NOT located in another country?
I did NOT originally call you a "foreigner" which is a noun and means: A native or citizen of a foreign country or region; alien."
When you have to drag the dictionary out and explain the meaning of simple words in sentences - its time to stop arguing with that person.
My Dear Wtrav, wasn't something I heard it was something I read, written by you. I think it was under the heading Marinasrussianfuck, or something like that, a discussion you were having with someone regarding the nude pictures. They made the claim she wasn't their taste and couldn't understand why you would post nude pictures of your girlfriend on the internet. You replied she wasn't your girlfriend. My question still stands, if she was a scammer why post her nude pictures on the internet? Pretty much a classless move.
As for being a citizen of the US, by birthright only, that is about the same as my daughter who was born in Delemont Switzerland, is a Swiss citizen.
Also my wonderfully educated friend, as for going into the service so I could educate myself that had nothing to do with it. Or the ability to attend college or pay for it. Since my father was a purple heart recepient in WWII I could have went to any college in Indiana for free. My motives for enlisting were more for the service of my country than any other reason. There are many Americans who still honor traditional values such as God,Family and country. Which has a way of pissing people like you and many others off. I have very little use for the poster children of the left and the right, IE, Bill Clinton and Rush Limbaugh, who found a way to wiggle out of service to their country, while almost 58,000 men died is southeast asia. It was a war fought on the backs of the poor and middle class, with the exception of a few that went from a privileged life. I also despise the liberal media, who gave Bill Clinton a pass for being a draft dodger, while assailing Dan Quayle and George Bush for being in the reserves. There are absolutes in life and I will leave you and Martin from this argument with some food for thought. From a man who had the courage to stand up in front of the Kansas legislature and speak the truth.
"Heavenly Father, we come before you today to ask Your forgiveness and to seek Your direction and guidance."
"We know Your Word says, "Woe to those who call evil good, but that's exactly what we've done."
We've lost our spiritual equilibrium and inverted our values."
"We confess that we've ridiculed the absolute truth of Your Word in the name of moral pluralism."
"We've worshiped other gods and called it multiculturalism."
"We've endorsed perversion and called it an alternative lifestyle."
"We've exploited the poor and called it a lottery."
"We've neglected the needy and called it self-preservation."
"We've rewarded laziness and called it welfare."
"In the name of choice, we've killed our unborn."
"In the name of 'right to life', we've killed abortionists."
"We've neglected to discipline our children and called it building esteem."
"We've abused power and called it political savvy."
"We've coveted our neighbor's possessions and called it taxes."
"We've polluted the air with profanity and pornography, and called it freedom of expression."
"We've ridiculed the time-honored values of our forefathers and called it enlightenment."
"Search us, oh God, and know our hearts today. Try us, and expose any wickedness in us. Cleanse us from every sin, and set us free."
"Guide and bless these men and women who've been sent here by the people of Kansas and who've been ordained by You to govern this great state."
"Grant them Your wisdom to rule, and may their decisions direct us to the center of Your will."
"I ask it in the Name of Your Son, the living Savior, Jesus Christ. Amen."
Besides the Constitution of this great country, these may be the second greatest words ever written. I am far from perfect, but I will not let others slander and assail my country without having first hand knowledge of how everyday life is here. Again there are absolutes in life.
I might be way off base here--I do not know about all the details,but I see the posted photos as being an extension of pain,and agony wrought by an insincere woman. Again I may be wrong-I have been so twice in my life,but when a person hurts from broken relations,often their anger comes out sideways.
I make the wild assumption that your service to your country was paid at the going rate at the time. Correct me if I am wrong. If you went to the service for the sole purpose of serving your country (even toilet service counts I give you this), then why get paid? you may say I needed the money at the time. Fair. If you haven't returned the money yet, why not return it now and post a scanned copy of your check to the government. If I see this, I will admit you're a patriot. If not, then you're just another government employee no better than the blue or white collar employee who works in a plant and with his taxes paid for your toilet service in the Philippines. You pretend to be the avid capitalist republican (cut the shit about being centrist, what you've said on this site is not centrist at all). If you are leaning so much towards reducing the size and role of the government, why the hell you are such a fervent supporter of the wars of the Bush administration? even by your insensitive, egocentric standards doesn't this sound a horrible waste of tax payer money?
spirit, pain has nothing to do with the pictures pal::)) I only knew that woman for a week before I visited her, had never written to her, and had only spoken to her on the phone a couple times. Her glamorous pictures on the net was a lure I admit. I was going to be in Europe on short notice and decided to check legit galleries (AFA) and find a girl that I liked to meet without giving it further thought.
Why what I did is any different from going on one of these tours where you meet hundreds of women without any previous contact. Why is it unethical? And if it is, why isnít unethical what others have done during these social tours?
I was going for one woman while I could have arranged a bunch of meetings with a different woman each day. It was not the right approach and I understood it in hindsight and did not repeat it. As far as the pictures are concerned, she invited me to take pictures and let me have the negatives. After I came back to the states, something really didn't seem right to me. The money that she was asking me, the continuous effort to find out who I am financially, even the exorbitant price that she negotiated for me to pay for that hotel where we stayed in Yalta (100% she got a commission from the owner), the phone calls on her cell inviting her to go to such social parties with foreigners. Come on you don't need to have a degree from MIT to become suspicious. When I returned, I searched a few sites trying to find her profiles. She told me she had her profile on 3 marriage sites and she was going to have it removed from each of these sites. I also checked some other sites because I was suspicious something more was going on that she didn't tell me.
There was a web site with profiles of women asking for marriage, meeting or plain sponsorship with foreigners. I found her profile with fully naked pictures in that site. I called her and told her that I would not see her again. I also contacted the 3 legit marriage web sites where she had her profile posted and let the owners know with documentation who she really was. They removed her in a matter of a couple of days. I posted to this site to warn others. Is there anything wrong with this?
I posted the pictures on the net on a private site for my friends to see (mainly not people from this site). I removed the pictures shortly thereafter. What is the problem posting a hooker's pictures on the net, there are so many out there. I even received emails from studios asking me whether I would be willing to sell them her contact information ... hey she asked me to become her photographer and she would become my model::)) I never sold her pictures or negatives or shared any other information and the pics could not be downloaded. I did nothing wrong in this whole story, I was simply scammed. I paid for the pictures without knowing it in the first place and used them as I wished. This is the last freaking time I am explaining this.
Dear god, dear god dear god...give me the wisdom to to see at least two inches past my nose, the patience needed to remain faithful to the LA Kings until they win their first NHL championship and above all please give me the strength to beat the living shit out those who desperately need it...:))
""...- He is also culturally and politically ignorant (perhaps because he is a political science major). He doesn't understand French will never allow their government to tortue people even those people who are suspected terrorists. ...."
That got me!
The French are infamous for their torture and misuse of prisoners.
Look up the movie/documentary "The Battle For Algiers" and perhaps the book "Scars Are My passport" (about Devil's Island)
Also having just come back (literally less than 6 hours ago) what is all this stuff about guns and Europe being safer?
It is getting harder and harder for me to recognise my old country. It has changed beyond recognition. Right now there is a hue and cry because a Pakistani bastard along with 2 Somali shits gunned down a policewoman (who has a FSU last name BTW) in cold blood in the robbing of a store.
About 2,000 pounds!!
The place is rife with illegal aliens and it is hard to find a white English face. Just exactly what happened?
My friend tried to fill me in but it was just too much to absorb.
Suffice to say that I will happily stay in my sunny gun toting Florida and take my chances of being shot or killed. At least if somebody breaks into my home I have the right to blow theur heads off which I would do in a heartbeat.
Now I think I will shut up and go and lie down behind the fridge again and suck my thumb for a while.
Yes, a policewoman was murdered in Bradford a couple of weeks back and it was such an atrocity, it made front page news and remains in the news until, and no doubt beyond, this day.
As it was breaking news a New Yorker contacted British TV to say that such an event in NYC wouldn't even make the news, it's part of NYC life, he said that, not I nor anybody else.
You talk of a Pakastani and two Somali's. THe UK has a fair justice system and these faces/names, as provided by the authorities to the media, are merely 'prime' suspects and at this time, they are not under arrest or facing trial for the murder, they are being 'hunted' so they may assist the authorities with their enquiries.
Everybody is entitled to a fair trial and unless beyond reasonable doubt everybody is innocent until proven otherwise.
Yes, many UK city centres, or city suburbs, are in the main white minorities but that goes back to immigration policies of the past. Something similar might be said regarding your situation, were you not an immigrant into the US and I hope we're not about to start judging people by the colour of their skin!
I could very easily write something so scathing of Martin's remark but I will not so.
Suffice to say yes I am racially prejudiced just like everybody else and the main difference is that I am honest about it and do not hide behind some liberal, PC nonsense. Yes the emperor has no clothes and I will say so.
Yes I believe wholeheartedly in stereotypes and profiling. I absolutely make decisions based on skin color and manor of dress, body language etc. Anybody who says they do not is an out and out liar.
As I came into America through Miami immigration yesterday I was scanned with a camera thingy and they have electronic fingerprinting of everybody coming through. GOOD! If that means they pick up an international terrorist or criminal of any sort hooray. It has to be done. Profile and sterotype away I have nothing to hide so I have no problems. If you are wearing a yashmac you need to be closely looked at. You are an arab and are very suspicious just by ethnicity. I couldn't care less about the rights and wrongs of it.
I do not believe that too many Australian aborigines have hijacked any planes lately (or ever for that matter) so let us not worry about them too much.
It isn't xenophobia it is the truth. Trouble is that you are not supposed to speak the truth or you are 'racially prjudiced'. OK I own up :)) It was me I am the racially prejudiced one, it was all my fault:))
What has been written about the 3 pieces of crap that killed that policewoman is not what the newspapers are saying over there. They killed her and should hang preferably slowly.
That piece of news is being overshadowed quite quickly by the sad death of George Best.
My immigration into the USA was something of a 'chain of events' not really planned per se. It was weird.
My situation has absolutely zero bearing on any of this. Why is it being mentioned? I blended in with the community I ended up living in. I even learned Spanish.
I have not come to America and tried to force my culture on them I assimilated, voluntarily.
Color of skin in the sense that is being leveled here is not part of this equation. Ethnicity, ability/desire to assimilate and language is.
My previous paragraph might seem contradicatory but it is not. One comment is about judging people and the other is regarding absorbtion into a community. 2 different things.
If you can't speak English stay in Pakistan or Somalia. If you really want to eat kebabs and have a mosque on the street corner stay in Iraq. Scoop them all up and dump them back in Pakistan, India and wherever else they come from.
There is a huge difference between Britain and America. This is supposed to be an international melting pot. Franklin called it the 'great experiment'.
Although judging by what I saw in the UK recently maybe I am wrong about that. The owners of the B&B upon giving instructions for taking the bus warned me that there was a language problem with the bus drivers.
If you cannot speak fluent English you cannot have a job working driving a bus or being just about anything else. Piss off back where you come from and come back when you can at least speak the language!!! What total rubbush. PC at it's shoot footing finest. Complete insanity!
A small number of foreign people coming in, blending and adding spice to the mainstream culture is one thing. It is actually a very good thing. Wholesale taking over of parts of large cities and converting them into a cold climate version of their poverty stricken homeland is not.
And yes I did support the National Front - quick to add mainstream policies not the stupid violent aspect which is not the way to get things done.
What happened to Maggie's tightening up of immigration policies I asked my friend? He said well that was 20 years ago they have been liberalized and watered down now to be non existant. Everybody has become super PC and 'Euroized' to the point where it has somewhat paralysed those old policies. Which were good ones I might add and this coming from somebody who despised Maggie.
Apparently Britain is a mess compounded by the European connection and any criticism of America should be definitely taken with a pinch of salt.
I do not agree with Nasfan about many, many things. And despite my words above I am not a right wing fanatic or on the other hand a bleeding heart liberal. I make my opinion based on each individual circumstance. I am just as likely to criticise the USA as I am to bitch about the UK. I also love the good things about both places.
This is pointless and I will not engage with you any more about this Martin. I proved my point before with you Martin and I will not pander to your taste for 'having the last word' so do your worst I will stay out of this thread I think.
So the newspapers have decided that these people are guilty, if one was to believe everything they read in UK newspapers then one will also believe that a World War 2 Avro Lancaster bomber was found on the moon.
OK, so you're a racist but please don't insinuate that I, or all others, share your same views. Please, do not let us enter into an argument regarding this but I, for one, am not a racist.