I'm new here and I've been reading some of the posts. Why are you so negative? I am not putting you down, or trying to pick a fight. I'm genuinely interested in why you are so hard on everyone? I'm a member of a few Russian women forums and I can honestly say I have never read such negative comments. It would help everyone here if we knew why, then perhaps we would understand your motives and listen to you!
Do you think i have anything to gain here???? Answer = No
Why am i here? Ive been to Ukraine since 1990 every year for business. Im a tall slim young athletic guy in my early 30s... Like you when i went to ukraine i thought i was in heaven with stunning supermodels girls coming up to me. Ive always been wary of things. I have never married a russian woman and never will.. because i know the obtsacles and i know deep down it will fail.. It was hard for me because i love the girls looks but common sense prevails. I dont want my life to be tormented.
Im very sorry that many guys on here will have their lives tormented because they dont understand or see the facts. I know the country backwards. Ive been everywhere Kherson , odessa , Simferopol , liev . kharkov. I know the people. I know what they girls think of westwern men and what they are after.
Agencies tell me this themselves because they know me. They wouldnt tell clients though//
Its hard to prove my theories because you have to live them . And maybe you should then you will remember my words. But please remember this
1/Russian woman want economic benefits
2/A green Card
3/Homesickness will call them back home
Ive mixed with hundreds of western/russian couples. none lasted
Please listen to me on this. My main anger is that agencies dont look into this more.
With regard to hotrussianbrides any jerk that places his business with an agency that has the word 'hot' in it deserves everything he gets. We all know what 'hot' means and it's not sincerity and stability.
Vain, do you know the basis behinbd a successful relationship, deep friendship and marriage? It is listening to the other person, discussing everything openly and in detail, realising that that is more than one's own opinion to be heard, making decisions together and if neccessary accepting that the other has a better point of view and conceding accordingly and if neccessary.
My wife and I discuss everything like this, even the not so pleasant subjects, and we can do this because her English is so very good and because we have 100% respect for each other. This is why my relationship & marriage is a success and your vain, half hearted attempt(s) have been a failure. One needs to give a 100% commitment but you've already decided that it will never work, it is doomed to failure etc. You're the failure in such a scenario Vain!
As you admit (above) it is merely your 'theories' that all FSU women are the same, economic benefits, green card, homesickness etc. Yes there are many ladies out there that fit one or more of these criteria's, over 7+ years I've met them, but when I've had a knockback I've fought back, tried and tried again, and my efforts and determination have brought me success and proven that I was right to fight. You've had a knockback and now you're kicking and screaming like a child who has lost his toy.
And just for the record, my wife works for an agency, I have mentioned it several times thus it is not a secret, and I hear stories and I know a number of the ladies personally. Whilst the agency attempts to root out 'bad' ladies one does occasionally slip thru the net, I know of one such lady but I also know a number of ladies who are the most sincere and polite ladies that one could wish to meet.
Is it a crime to want to improve one's life? Isn't that why we go to work, work extra hours, invest in property etc. etc. etc. It is human nature to strive for a better life, my wife wants it but she doesn't want it gifted to her nor is she in a rush for a western passport. When she comes across in a few months time she would like to get a good job, and she can achieve this with language skills, and then she will be a 50/50 contributor to our marriage, our life, and we're going to move forward together.
To summarise Vain, your problem is that you refuse to listen, there is only one correct opinion in this world and that is yours and until you learn to shut the fock up and accept that one person is never always right and sometimes, just sometimes, you need to listen to and accept the opinion(s) of other(s), accept that perhaps you were mistaken, then you're going to die as the sad and lonely person that I, and others, are listening to in these threads.
Have a martini... You need to get with it... If I met you face to face I would convince you otherwise of the facts.... I havent been knocked back by anyone. What i have mereley suggested is that every western/russian couple i have known has self destructed...
For a guy that is so experienced to continually refer to Ukrainian women as Russian is a definite pointer to the fact that you have never been there and no clue as to the nature of these women.
I'm willing to bet the pond that this vanechka is an aussie Vanessa whose australian man dumped her for an FSU woman.
There are many others public service forums to preach these beliefs if he/she/it was truly trying to save the males of the world from the supposedly malignant influence of those beautiful 'russian' women.
Could be worse... Could be an ass driving pilehammer!
Was there a post here about someone doing something wrong, or not, as the case may be?
Freebird made a comment that interested me... "Be a man! Step up! Men must be the initiators!" Is this true? Do Russian women like this approach? I would be very interested to hear about this. I am a bit of a mouse when it comes to making the decisions. I can take control, but prefer the lady decided what she wanted. I'm considerate! I spent the day with a beautiful Russian woman in Ireland and I wanted her to decide what to do during this day because I wanted her to enjoy it. Was this the wrong approach? Should I have "taken control" and said "right, we are going to do this"? I'm seeing her again, but I'm not sure about the impression I gave her. She must have liked me at least a little to want to see me again. Maybe I should take a little more control on the second meeting and tell her what we are doing (within reason, of course!)?
Wong,
I have just returned from my third trip to Ukraine on Sunday. Decided to wait until the fur quit flying before posting. But to your question, keeping in mind that all women are have different outlooks, my lady prefers that I listen to any point of view she might have and consider her position then she expects me to decide. In speaking with other friends, this seems to be a common outlook.
I am a "listner" by nature, so all I need to do is say "what would you like to do", she can give me a list, then I'll choose. Fair enough! I've never been the sort to dictate, so this suits me fine! It seems that I did ok in Ireland then. Thanks for the assistance.
Troy,
As per your other post, and for the naive like myself amongst us, please can you explain quite what is so 'Good', as you put it, about USA and quite what is so 'Old', as you put it, about USA, I was of the impression that, in comparison to others, USA is a relatively new country.
I await education, life is a learning process after all!