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	Create New Topic   My Posts   My forum buddies   Invite friends   Private messages Russian brides > Main Forum > How many women want to come to the United States for real? Author Post lonelyranger1701 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/15/2011 12:30:15 AM   Rb,,,,,, He has no remorse, no feelings of guilt!! Right now, he’s playing everyone for a fool, hoping they will view him as a victim!! The poor wounded dove!! “Oh,, don’t hurt me no more!!!” It’s a bunch of bull, and he’s hoping a couple of other fools will buy it;,, Hook, Line and Sinker!! It’s just a poor pathetic attempt on his part, to deflect the shame onto us!! Which in reality,,, proves his lack of guilt and remorse!!! He cares for no one!!!! A lot of members think “we” are to blame for this??!! Hasn’t this been going on for years before I joined???? If you go back through the archives,,, there he is,, spewing out the same poison he is doing now!! So why is it allowed???? I have asked Ralph “why” many times,,, but he just doesn’t get it!! I know why,,, I discovered this years ago already. These websites,, are not in the business of joining single people together any more!! It is a sex tourist business!! Sex appeal!!! Hasn’t anyone noticed the photos of the women?? What do they look like,, wives,,, or hookers??? I think a lot of them are pretty,,, but I would not want to marry most of them!! The sex tourist is the ultimate user,,, lie to them,, use them,, spend as little as possible on them, and throw them away!! Literately and figuratively speaking!! Sound like anyone we know???? I’ve talked with a lot of people about this, standing in line at the airport, hotels, etc! Only 1 out of 5 men travel to the FSU for a wife!! It is a big reason the search is so difficult!! About a week ago,, Ralph agreed with Giss, that it is very possible and easy to find a wife!! Possible,,,, yes, easy,,,, Hell no!! I expect Ralph to post something like this soon,,,,, Finding a wife is easy!! Just walk over to Russia,, find a woman you like and bring her home!!!!! All you need, is an afternoon and a good pair of walking shoes!!!! Does anyone here believe that?? My first experience with Russia dates back to 1998! Then again with Ukraine in 2009, 2010, and 2011! I’ve been married to a Russian woman,, and divorced! I have hundreds of stories about Russia and the Ukraine! But, you know what?? I can’t share any of them anymore!! Why??? Because one jackass on the forum will belittle, ridicule, and slander every word of it!!! A few weeks ago,, a member named Mick99 asked me about my wife and our marriage,,, I didn’t answer him! Why?? Because I thought he could be danny!!! It was not too long after I joined, that I had some of my posts removed. Did I say anything bad?? NO!! I wrote;” If,,, I knew back then,,, what I know today,,, I never would have started with this!!” (foreign dating) That was pulled??!! Now,, I think back a week or two,, when someone wrote; That 90% of American/FSU marriages end in divorce!! It sounds to me,, that 90% of American members could have used my bit of information!!! I am totally perplexed on how things get approved here,,, and how long it takes!! I’ll write something,, yes,, maybe good,,,, maybe bad,, and I’ll check the next morning;,,,, not approved yet! I’ll check when I come home at night,,,, not approved yet,, I’ll check before going to bed,,, still not approved??? I do the same thing the next day,,, and sometimes into the following day,,, and maybe the next! Still not approved??!! Then the following morning,, it’s approved, and danny’s response is there waiting for me????!!!!! And it may not even be about him!! Why is his crap “pre-approved“ ??!!! WHY????? To the people, who think “I” am ruining the forum;,,, Pull your heads out of your asses,,, splash some water on your eyes,,, and take a good look around!!!!! Wake up people!!! lonelyranger1701 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/15/2011 9:33:53 PM   danny you stupid idiot!!! I didn't say "running" the forum,,, I said "ruining" the forum!! Have your eyes checked!!! I won't change the way I search for anyone,, especially you!!! I won't be telling you when I am going,, I won't tell you when I'm there, nor when I return!! Isn't it great that one fxxking moron can ruin it for everyone??!! Keep it to one thread??? But tell you which one??? Moron,, you have your own thread already!!!! Can't you read???? You spent 200,000 so far??? I thought you were proud to be a cheap bassturd?? Well,,, which is it?? Can't have it both ways!!! If you have spent 200,000?? Why so much??? Is it that hard for you to find someone?? lonelyranger1701 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/15/2011 10:10:02 PM   Ralph!! I have to apologize!! I had wrote about getting rid of danny,, and when I saw your; (Danny,????) above, I thought it was aimed at me, telling me to take a sabatical?? Sorry!! danny has already posted that he will never quit!!! Data Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/15/2011 11:08:33 PM   Hello! I am new here and not realy sure if this is the right place to ask. I have an unusual situation. I have been in Ukraine many times now, and know some of the people at the place where I stay, and at the restaurant. The owners have a daughter who is very pretty, and they have always like it when we spend time together! Last week the father asked me point blank,, "Would you like to marry our daughter and take her to America??" I do like spending time with her and we always have a good time! But here's the kicker,,, she just turned 17!! I'm almost 45! I can hear everyone already,, but you must also know, that the parents have said it is okay!! By the time all the paperwork will be finished, she will be 18! I know the parents want their daughter to get to America,, but they also want what is best for her! What should I do?? Harvey Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/19/2011 4:51:20 AM   Armus -- consider the long term effects. She is just 18. It is possible that it could work. Think about an 18 yr old finding herself in new surroundings and experiencing culture shock. Think about what may happen five to ten years down the road. Now, does the girl express interest in marrying you and moving to America or is it the wish of the father? Could be you have a winner. Could be just a few years of interesting living. Think of your social life if you were to marry an 18 yr old from Ukraine. Are you mentally equipped to handle the comments you will most assuredly get from other men and women? Are you prepared for the fact that she will probably be targeted by other young men? What are her morals? Will she be tempted? Unless you are very wealthy and can give her the fantasy life and shelter her from reality there is a high probability that she will want to experience something different. Or as I said, she may be a perfect wife who adores you forever. It's a big risk. And unless you are prepared to start over in several years you must ask yourself if you are willing to take that risk. Hope it works out for you. Just one question though. Why is it you spend much time with a teenager in the first place? Rag'n'Bull Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/19/2011 6:00:46 AM   Armus, Point 1 is that, at 17/18, she is not mentally mature, she's not a child but she's not yet a woman, once she becomes a woman she will come to realise that she's old enough to make her own decisions, decide upon what SHE, not her parents, wants for her future life and these plans may include you ... or maybe not. Realistically what have the two of you got in common? She hasn't even attained an age yet to, realistically, go clubbing, go out places with her teenage friends etc. whilst you're attaining an age whereas you've long since done those things and probably want to put your feet up a little. Having someone as young as her as a part-time friend/acquaintance is one thing .... living with and trying to accommodate each other 24/7 is something very different. kiwinorth Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/19/2011 9:19:53 AM   Armus, i would think at your age you should be mentally prepared for any dramas she may throw at you, meaning take it or leave her type of thing, so go for it. really the big question, are you able to be around her full time and feel comfortable with each other mentally, then again maybe its a bad idea. on the other side at least you wouldnt get any stress i would think sorting out a prenuptial. the other thing is what Ralph has already said,, other peoples thoughts and their pressures. which i wouldnt care about myself. hell what would i do? dont know i think the hardest thing with these girls is been able to meet each other mentally in the same place,(able to discuss things at your level type of thing) not the easiest to find. durak Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/19/2011 1:23:23 PM   @Armus: "What should I do??" Answer: Keep your shirt on, pilgrim. If you were comfortable/confident about the situation, you wouldn't have made that post. It is blindingly obvious that all sorts of problems come along with a man being 2 and 1/2 times the age of his bride -- so obvious, I won't say any more about it. A) It seems to me from your post, that before her Pop popped the question, you and this girl weren't "an item." If so, then you don't really have any serious feelings about her, nor she about you. So you have have an attractive acquaintance/friend, and out of the blue, somebody asks "why don't you marry her?" In general, would you take that to be a sensible proposition? B) Parents naturally want their children to have security, opportunity, and some assurance of adequate material circumstances. Things are rough in Ukraine (look at per-capita GDP, life expectancy, population trends, etc.), and likely to stay that way for years to come. As much as they may like you as an individual (I'm sure they do, or else you wouldn't have gotten the invitation), they also see you as a sort of conduit to success for their daughter. In other words, they are relating to you both as a human being, and as a useful instrument. What do you think about that? C) For a middle-aged bachelor, becoming infatuated with a cute teen is as easy as falling off a log -- also, as dignified as falling off a log. There are lots of fellows who would entertain a few fantasies about their friends' nubile daughter. Suddenly, here's the parents, saying, "go ahead, take her." It's a naughty daydream come true. If if weren't for the rather intoxicating quality of the situation, would you give it ten minutes' consideration? D) Her parents have given you a very nice compliment. They're telling you that you're a good enough guy to take care of their daughter (at least for a little while, if they're not confident it will last long). How is that affecting your perspective? To boil it down, step back and take an objective look. Of course, then you'll probably do whatever your hormones are telling you, because that's the human condition. Good luck! Data Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/24/2011 12:47:34 AM   Hi guys, nobody responded for days and I lost hope, then I looked today and whoa! Ralph; I have spent a lot of time with her over the last couple of years, her and her family know everything about me! She was only 15 when we first met, and I did everything possible to avoid her! Since I have known her, she has been very grown up and mature, she looks like a college graduate! I don’t think there will be culture shock,,, if anything, culture disappointment! Her and her family watch a lot movies and TV, and I tell them what is normal and what is Hollywood. Her and I are already adjusted to each other, at first I avoided her, but after a while, we seem to spend more and more time together. Anytime her friends come over, or when her and her friends plan to go somewhere, her parents tell all of them to avoid the local boys and foreigners who only want to get into their pants. Her parents speak Russian with her friends, but Katya tells me what they say. They have kept the local boys away from her, and seem to trust me to take her places. I’ve been her body guard for two years. Ivor I have already gone clubbing with her and her friends. There doesn’t seem to be any drinking age limit,, if you look good, hand a few bucks to the door man,,, you’re in?! She does want to marry me, it’s not just her parents. Things in common,,, we like the same movies, she takes all of my Cds full of music, and slowly gives them back. When I’m here, I might be working for most of the time, or I could have weeks with nothing to do. I spend most of that time with her and her family. I’m already part of the family, I have most of my meals with them, not only the free breakfasts. When we watch TV, her parents are on one sofa, and Katya and I are on the other. She falls asleep with her head on my shoulder,,, parents watching with smiles!!! kiwinorth I mostly posted here, to find out what everyone’s thoughts would be. I know people will look when going out for supper, or going shopping back home. I am waiting for someone to tell me that I have a very beautiful daughter! I plan on giving her a big juicy kiss!! Lol Durak I am comfortable when I am with her, but I do know there will be a lot of talk when I come home. We have talked about it,, but I do not talk about dates or conditions. I do not want her to get her hopes up, just incase it never happens. I think we are an “item” but we are not yet intimate! But our relationship is not 100% platonic ! For example, one time when we were watching TV she put a pillow on my lap, and placed her head on the pillow. She was a little naughty with one hand. Her parents were just 10 feet away.?! I think one reason her parents are all for it, is that they are getting old, and don’t seem to have many close relatives? They had an older son, but he was in their army, and died many years ago. They do not talk about it! Her father is in his 60’s and her mother is in her 50’s, I have no doubt that they want protection and security for their baby girl! I have already been providing that! I don’t think her parents see me as an instrument, they are the most genuine people I have ever met. When customers come in to the hotel or restaurant , they are very quiet and cautious, but when the strangers are gone, and it’s personal time, look out!! Everyday is a celebration, and everyone is happy. Her parents act more like teenagers,,, I have already needed to leave the room for them! Lol Very different from where I grew up! They also have a sauna, even in the hot summer they use it. To me, that’s a one or two person thing,,, oh no! I think modesty is strictly an American thing! They go in with towels around them,, but don’t always keep them up. I think one of the biggest reasons they trust me, is that I have had many opportunities to take advantage of their daughter,,, and I haven’t! Not too long ago, she fell asleep in my room, on the bed, both of us were fully clothed, and on top of the covers. Her mother told us breakfast was ready??? I almost blanked a brick! Don’t think that they love everything American, they don’t! They see plenty of foreigners, and have a real distrust of them. Before I met them, a neighbor girl went with a foreigner to Thailand. The girl thought they were going to share a nice time together, he had other plans. When the girl refused him, he took off with the plane tickets and left her behind!! She was not able to contact any family members, and she had no money!! A girl all alone only has one thing to sell, it took her over a week to pay for a ticket! I have already decided to wait a while before talking about wedding plans. I’m sure she will still be here next year! Harvey Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/24/2011 6:08:04 AM   well armus, it seems you have an answer for everything. I wonder why you asked in the first place if your mind seems to be made up already. it's a risk no matter who or how old she may be. I am divorced. so and I didn't think about the risks when I married. it doesn't mater where they are from. it all sounds perfect. it is still a huge risk no matter where you are marrying someone 25 years younger. to answer the OP. how many come to the US? the answer is not simply a number or percentage. the answer is those who are in a sincere relationship with an american and are willing to take the risk themselves are the ones that come. how many is not a simple answer. contrary to what some men may think, it is not a shopping mall to buy a woman. though some think it is. if you do not have the wherewithal to get a lady in your own country then you are probably wasting your time in the FSU. armus, your story about the man that left a girl behind because he thought he had 'rights' to her is sad. it happens. perhaps it is why many have become jaded over the past decade. I wonder if the web sites that promote the hot young russian girls in underwear ads have anything to do with this sort of behavior? I think so. it is my belief that the girls are not just victims of the treacherous sex tourist type. they are the victims of the entire FSU dating/mob industry. you have different types over there. to the extreme, there are those who are looking for a good husband or those who are trying to make a buck. plus a few mixed categories between. it ain't easy. but it ain't that difficult either. for a good man who is able to think reasonably and who has the means to travel... go to russia myheart2ukraine Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/24/2011 1:10:10 PM   armus you tell us your 45 but i think really you much act 35 years old i think you will have no problem in2 the future with this young woman i myself am 25 years older than my babes lyudmila. if you look after yourself cut the drinking out or down 2 little & you no smoke then you are very much looking after your bodies health if you are really on the same wave length mentally & humour then you are half-way there. i see already that you have alot in commen so this is a good sign for you & her there are many different types off woman over here as you know, is some like clubbing some just what a family life some just want a good man that they cannot find here. this list can be endless but allso luck in life plays a big part in finding true love as she is only 17 then you have plenty off time 2 marry in2 the future. i would have a talk with her parents maybe get engaged 2 set the wedding for her 21st birthday, this way you will know by then if this is going 2 be your love off your life not know your how your financial moinies are but if you can do this then there is nothing 2 lose for you. you allso gets you 2 know this young woman well between her 18 & 21st birthdays for if problems arise then you sort them are part on friendly terms with her & her family anyways good luck 2 you myheart2ukraine Your Reply: Your name:   New Registration Password:   Forgot password?   refresh Code:   Russian brides > Main Forum > How many women want to come to the United States for real?
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