Nasfan,
I, for one, do not believe the crap as supposedly reported by the media, I have worked previously in the USA and even in Europe I have worked with many Americans and we talk(ed) about things.
And just for the record, to invade a country merely to topple the leader from power is illegal under international law, it had nothing to do with 9/11 nor the supposed weapons of mass destruction, it was Junior doing, for Daddy, what Daddy didn't complete in the first place because at that time it suited Daddy for Saddam to remain in power to prevent Iran from misbehaving.
You complained of European countries not backing the US, don't you appreciate that for some countries, such as Germany, to go to war for any reason, particularly an illegal reason, is something of a sensitive subject, Germany have made that mistake before, twice!
Do you recall the liberation of Kosovo? It was a British led force but if I recall correctly there was an election campaign at the time in the USA. For pure political gain the Americans began to argue with the Brits that the USA should be first into Kosovo, they would rather argue than get the job done and whilst the USA argued the Russians went in through the back door, eggs on faces or what!
You want to start talking politics, come on then :))
"Europe with the exception of Great Britian has stood around wringing their hands and harboring this criminal extremists. Now look at France and the turmoil there. This is a calculated insurrection."
- He is also culturally and politically ignorant (perhaps because he is a political science major). He doesn't understand French will never allow their government to tortue people even those people who are suspected terrorists.
Wash. Mall Locked Down After Shootings (9 min ago)
TACOMA, Wash. - At least five people were hurt after shots were fired inside a shopping mall Sunday, and the mall was locked down as police searched for the shooter, authorities said.
It wasn't immediately clear how serious the injuries were.
Tacoma Fire Department official John Landoski said authorities got a call about 12:15 p.m. that shots had been fired inside the mall. Five people were taken to hospitals with injuries, he said.
The mall was locked down with shoppers and store clerks still inside, and the shooter was also still believed to be inside, Landoski said.
State Patrol and police units from nearby agencies were clustered around an entrance at the south end of Tacoma Mall.
Betz Dejarnatt, who works at the J.C. Penney store inside, said she heard at three shots.
"I thought, that sounds like a gun," Dejarnatt told The Associated Press in a telephone interview. She said some workers were herded into dressing rooms and offices, then police had them filed outside to a parking lot.
I don't know what I'm talking about despite my spending a day out in a black & white for the day, on an invite of 'Barry' from the San Diego Police Department.
Barry was a good guy and, as a passenger, helped to overpower another passenger on a flight inbound to LAX. I only brought the guy down, it was Barry who knocked him unconscious!
<And just for the record, to invade a country merely to topple the leader from power is illegal under international law, it had nothing to do with 9/11 nor the supposed weapons of mass destruction, it was Junior doing, for Daddy, what Daddy didn't complete in the first place because at that time it suited Daddy for Saddam to remain in power to prevent Iran from misbehaving.>
Strange. I wasn't aware that Tony Blair's father had been Prime Minister of Britain.
Jetmba,
I never suggested, I didn't even hint at the same, that a lady may prefer Europe to USA. I merely dared to make mention of USA gun laws and then the Anti-Europe slander match commenced.
Thereafter, what is good for the goose is good for the gander, as they say!
No Martin, It's your anti American stance, as for an illegal war under international law. My constitution makes no provisions for international law, nor any jurisdiction of any international court, though many in Europe would like to see this and I for one will not support anything but a free nation state for any country and not to be bound by any rules the Hague may want to issue. How long has the Hague been prosecuting Milosevich? Yep that's the court I want to rule in my cases. What Hogwash. A day in a black and white, well now I'm impressed, Especially in San Diego, spend time in a Black and white in Chicago then tell me what cops go through. Again California gun laws most strict on the books more gun homicides. As for an Illegal war, that is open for debate, what war is legal? I guess weapons of mass destruction does not cover scud missiles, Seron gas, everyone says where are the wmds, well define them. As far as the anti gun crowd you would classify a revolver as a wmd if it fits your purpose. Sorry boys that won't cut it.
Glad to see you back Wtrav00, same bravado same bullshit as usual. You're about as sharp as a marble boy. As for understanding animals as you do, makes me wonder of your persuasion.
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"...- He is also culturally and politically ignorant (perhaps because he is a political science major). He doesn't understand French will never allow their government to tortue people even those people who are suspected terrorists. ...."
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Say again, slowly!
France has a very bleak history with respect to torture in North Africa - particularly Algeria.
I do not have an Anti-American stance, all I mentioned, in the first instance, was gun laws.
In this thread I have said something worse about the Germans but I don't see myself being accused of an Anti-German stance, I speak the truth, I call a spade a spade, and if some are too sensitive to take it well that's their problem.
We all know who Daddy & Junior are, Blair is an idiot, there you go, now I've got an Anti-British stance.
The police at Dnepropetrovsk airport are assholes, an Anti-Ukrainian stance.
I speak the truth, respect it or not, I don't really care.
Martin, you speak your truth. You have no facts at all to support your argument. There is LESS gun crime per capita then most developed countries, why can you not accept that? Go look it up before you argue more. Yes, if I live in east Los Angles I will be more worried then if I lived in say, BF nowhere in the UK. But most people DON'T live in crime infested areas. It is a very large nation.
So gun LAWS are for LAWFUL citizens? You understand that right? People with concealed weapons permits ARE NOT criminals. You get it? Something sinking into your thick skull? CRIMINALS do not seek and are NOT GIVEN permits for guns ANYWHERE and especially not in the USA.
heyme,
I only stated it the one time, it's others, including yourself, that won't let the matter drop. You, and others, are too bloody sensitive by far, now get that into your thick skull.
Did I say anything about the history of France and what the French government did to their former colonies decades ago? All I said was the French people, i.e. the French people in our days, would never allow their government to torture other people. That's all, there's nothing else to it.
The sorry (and fake) cowboy flies like the fly in his big pooper plane to cheer the good guys and scold the bad guys of our small world, to tell us all what is freedom, who are the terrorists, how to define weapons, what is good and what is bad. Who? a former alcoholic (something tells me a current one as well), a personal failure, a daddy's boy, a dyslexic coward. Is this the best of America?
You fool with the guns, yes I'm talking to you. Our divide is about politics. What makes you a patriot and me an anti-American? because you said so? how you define stupidity? maybe you should have x-rays done to your head to find out there is no lettuce in it?
Its a good thing you specified the native American Indians. We certainly know you don't want to discuss the horrible things that were done to the Indians of India at the hands of the British.
and who started the idea of slavery in America - why I believe it was our British ancestors, who eventually through injustice and oppression had even their own colony (namely the US) rebel and declare independence.
The slave trade was conducted originally by the Dutch - and of what continent were they? Aren't they European?
Lets NOT forget the native Australians - who were dealt equally cruel fates by the British who decided that the entire continent was best used as a penal colony.
If I was British I would certainly brag about my country's history regarding foreign affairs. There's just so much there to talk about.