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	Create New Topic   My Posts   My forum buddies   Invite friends   Private messages Russian brides > Main Forum > Forget it fellas its all a scam Author Post wmferg Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 1/21/2006 4:40:40 PM   steeleman...a wise fella told once that if I was to listen to advice from someone, make sure they are where I want to be. It would follow that someone new here would want to listen to the advice of nas, martin, crash, glad, jet, trad, myself, etc..etc. All who have gone multiple times and have been successful...and not to someone who has been there once and struck out and is 0 for 4. You remind me of the guy who plays the stock market for the first time and without doing and research, buys a high priced glamour stock that has alredy been run up. When it falls and he loses his money he insists the stock market is a scam and there was nothing wrong with his approch. vanechka Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 1/21/2006 6:06:11 PM   Im convinced now. Martin runs an agency... As soon as I mention about this new law of privacy he gets all agitated.. Steeleman.... What you have here is "dads Army"... Guys who are slagging me and you and they are dating russian woman with kids or have gfs living in other countries... How anyone could take these guys seriously amuses me... Its really a debacle here... And you saw it yourself Steeleman.. If they are going to treat a young like you like crap can you imagine what will happen to the dads army brigade here?? And by the way all these looney tunes here who keep saying socials are better ... You cretins realise that agencies hire out models for these socials... They arent there to meet guys they are there to make the socials look good... STUPID men... THEY WONT STICK AROUND AMEN!!!!!!!!! nasfan6 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 1/21/2006 6:28:58 PM   Read HR3402 , it's not going to hurt a damn thing with agencys. If you like I can make it easy for you and post the part about agencys it is not a law of privacy you retarded mongoloid. No here it is Read HR3402-109 to HR3402-119. It will affect agencies that operate in the USA such as AFA and others. God what I hate is hearing idiots talk about laws they absolutely know little about. Like I've said all along, all my fellow americans here that support the Patriot Act, this is what you get. Look who is going to supervise this, a newly created Bureaucracy known as Homeland Security. Big government, Getting bigger. Hell Just look at all the pork in this bill. My fingers are sore from using my calculator on the computer. Coming Soon internal passports! "Your Papers Please!" When you exhange freedom for security, you deserve neither! Later Mike danny3777 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 1/21/2006 6:44:50 PM   Yep Vanechka, As a European married to a fellow European I'm so shit scared of USA laws it's unbelievable. Just read back through my previous posts, it becomes quite obvious that my work is in the airline industry but you keep guessing, making hilarious accusations, my little toyboy you, I'm having such a laugh!!! By the way Vanechka, how much do you charge, what is the going rate for an antipodean 'rent boy' these days? RK Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 1/21/2006 7:12:16 PM   martin...what do you do in the airline industry? danny3777 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 1/21/2006 7:44:23 PM   Nasfan, If you want to start another transatlantic battle, I think the US has enough homo's to export them, not import them! danny3777 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 1/22/2006 4:23:56 AM   Ladies? I guess you mean Vanechka! danny3777 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 1/22/2006 6:52:17 AM   Hey Guys, Brad Pitt: http://www.larchik.com/pic.php?c=UDdVNwM0UTJVZghoWnsEZFM8WjhRNQZi UTFVMQZgV3pSPVY9UWQFeFY/UnYPZg==&bigger=1 http://www.larchik.com/view.p hp?l=&id=00391 Username steeleman User first (nick)name User last (nick)name Birthday 30 Mark of the zodiac Capricorn Gender Male Type of relation for long relationship Country Australia Email Marital status Single Children None Height 5'8' (173cm) Weight 155 lbs (70kg) Hair color Blonde Eyes color Blue Ethnicity White/Caucasion Religion Other Smoker Occasionally Drinker Occasionally Education College student Job Technician Hobby sports About Hello I’m simon from Australia. looking for beautiful overseas lady for marraige. I will send more photos not blurry like this one if you email me: spoofi6@hotmail.com Please send your photo too. Translate: ru --> engeng --> ru Seeking for Female Seeking ethnicity White/Caucasion Seeking age 14 - 31 Seeking height 4'2' (127cm) - 7'0' (213cm) Seeking weight 80 lbs (36kg) - 300 lbs (136kg) Registration date Jan/13/2004 08:24:40 Last access Mar/18/2004 11:51:47 User type Lite member 138 Popularity 8 Bagira Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 1/22/2006 11:22:45 AM   Martin, Этот Бред Пит Похож на бандита. Жуткий тип. danny3777 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 1/22/2006 12:12:54 PM   Now let us see, registered on 13 Jan 2004, 2+ years ago, and a score of 0-4, yep he's really going places! felicedate Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 1/22/2006 12:39:10 PM   I've seen a copuple of such "navy seals" a couple times... God save me from it in the future...:-) jmoluv Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 1/22/2006 1:34:27 PM   That was a good one NAS, LOL nasfan6 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 1/22/2006 11:47:50 PM   Hmmmmmmm? Delete my posts about making a joke about importing people of a strange persuasion, but we can post a mans profile and no offense is taken, Well I can see that this forum is very one sided as usual. I find what Martin has done with Steelemans profile is very insulting, he has done it to many here in this forum and I ask that the above post with steelemans profile be removed. danny3777 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 1/23/2006 4:38:32 AM   Nasfan, I have never asked nor expected any preferential treatment regarding posts being deleted or not deleted however your post, which you now refer to as a joke, did suggest that I was involved in an illegal activity. I can understand if and why the moderators deleted it, probably for legal reasons, and whilst I make no excuses for posting Steeleman's profile it does not suggest anything illegal. Should the moderators choose to remove it then I am not in a position to prevent them from doing so. You say I have posted profiles of 'many' here in the forum, please can you define your interpretation of the word 'many'? Would 'many' be one and now two? Martin danny3777 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 1/23/2006 8:45:46 AM   Identity theft, I guess that would be NOR guilty then for posting, what he believed at the time to be, my profile. How can one steal NOR's identity when one doesn't even know such a basic detail as his name? steelman Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 1/24/2006 3:03:47 PM   Not surprising all my post are gone completely now, they have been edited or deleted since the very start, and we know martin works for the agency becasue he was able to obtain records from 2 years ago that I had let lapse. Not even from this agency I don't think. I can't remember, but forget going to Ukraine any men with any sense its all a scam. write me if you wanna know more. ASPAUSTRALIA@hotmail.com nasfan6 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 1/25/2006 6:30:24 AM   Steeleman, Finding your profile from another site is as easy as a google search, we have one here that likes to do that. It is their patented trademark and has been done before. Welcome to the kiddies forum. The new an improved forum. I am in agreement that if your profile remains, then your other post's should remain. Posting someone's profile on here is idiotic and immature response to a heated discussion that they have been involved in. I repeat this is the new forum. As for Ukraine, well your opinion is what it is. I'm leaving this weekend to bring my lady to the states. I'm making her feel safe by bringing her copies of over 1011 gun laws in the states so she can read on the flight back. The age group you were searching in is about as unsure as walking through a mine field. Then some of our real experienced guys around here have made that mistake themselves. Looking for a woman 20 years their junior. In your case, ten years in the age group is about the same. You are miles apart in many things. Plus at their age I would really wonder how legitmate there intentions really are. I don't know many 20 year olds that are mentally mature enough to leave their country's to live abroad. So it's easy to make a buck through men who are searching. We then become their lawful prey. Later Mike buffed Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 1/25/2006 10:51:47 AM   Hi Mike and Forum, There certainly is an argument to be made on the perils of younger women, however, there's an equally powerful case to be made against older women as well. Don't make the mistake of automatically assigning maturity and quality of character to a woman because she is older. Also, there is another common misconception that women with children will also be more mature and level headed. Also, without knowing the circumstances of each individual man, blanket recommendations against dating younger women should not be made. Many men want to start a family which will require a woman who can have children for the next several years. Also, not all men have aged the same. I have read many posts from other forums and almost without exception the vast majority of nightmare FSU marriage disasters have been with women 29+, often with children. There was even a well known member on the RWL board who'd authored a book on the subject of marrying an FSU woman who wrote a shocking series of posts relating his nightmare within the past year. He had married a 40+ woman with children. He let her become involved in his business and she embezzled all the money and ran back to Ukraine. Yes, if you marry a younger woman you do have the maturity issue as a risk. However, there is a much better chance of finding a woman with good character at an earlier age. As time progresses, honest women with better character and a sincere desire to have a committed marriage tend to find their partners. In other words, the better ones get picked-over and by the time they hit their late 20's there's a disproportionate amount of defective character women making up the available pool. This is a universal fact of life and not an FSU specific problem. Remember, a person with bad character rarely has a personality transformation. If they have bad character from a young age they will only become more skilled at masking their flaws with experience, making more dangerous everyday. I've dated two FSU women of 30 in my travels. One was the ex-wife of a man Ukrainian man in the "oil business" (read mafia). By the way "oil business" is the Ukrainian translation for "mafia" :) Anyway, this 33 year old had absolutely awful character (although an excellent boob job and platinum blonde hair). Wanted to meet a man with a gangster type appearance (as told to my translator). The other 32 year old was from Saint Petersburg.......before continuing be sure you are sitting firmly in your chair because you're likely to fall-out. She arranged our meeting at her place of work: a top strip bar on Nevsky prospect. No, she wasn't a dancer, which by the way, wouldn't have bothered me. No this attractive, professional looking woman was well educated and fully dressed sat at the bar chugging down down drinks and chain-smoking with her ledger book while the stripper/prostitutes would report their take to her. Yes, my friends, you are reading this correctly, the woman I contacted through "A Foreign Affair" (loveme.com) was the top Madam in Saint Petersburg.:)! :)! Regards, "buffed" TRAVELLERVA Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 1/25/2006 11:17:57 AM   "buffed", at least both women were honest enough with you. One told you what she wanted, the other made no pretense about what she did. buffed Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 1/26/2006 10:25:10 AM   Travellerva, Good point to bring up since it helps tie the previous post into the subject matter of this thread which is the dubious validity of agency profiles. In both of the above referenced cases, neither of the women had any intention of meeting a western man and moving to a foreign country. In the case of the SPB woman, a friend had sent in her photos/profile without her knowledge. Incidentally, this is a very common occurrence among attractive women posted on websites which I have encountered several times. We had a nice discussion and talked candidly about whether she had a sincere interest in perhaps finding a foreign man and moving to a different country. She was quite comfortable and had no interest whatsoever in leaving her comfortable life. She told me about her nice home in the outskirts of SPB and her BMW. Actually, it was her chain-smoking and drinking that I found most incompatible rather than her profession. After all, I'm a big admirer of ambition and entrepenurial spirit. The Odessa mafia princess was rotten-to-the-core. She had absolutely no interest in meeting a foreign man (unless of course he was involved in organized crime). I can't recall exactly how her profile ended up on the Internet. However, I spoke with Natasha Varetskaya, the owner of the most reputable agency in Odessa about her. Natasha told me she had to take her profile down because the Mafia princess had so many letters and wouldn't bother to come and read them. She was listed on an agency which provided phone numbers so I was able to get a female Ukrainian friend to call her and arrange a meeting. So to summarize: This thread originated as an indictment against the legitimacy of agency profiles. The reality is that agencies have built a myth that there are just thousands of top model-looking women who are "just looking to find a nice guy and have a wonderful family life." Meaning even Joe Geek can just write a bunch of letters, make the trip over, and "wal-la" some beautiful babe with a heart as pure as the driven snow will fall madly in-love with him and live happily ever-after. This is the heart of issue guys. I've made this point in previous posts and it ties in completely with this thread. The reality is that almost all the ladies in any agency are legitimately interested in meeting a western man and moving. HOWEVER, the "BABES" which most of you are writing and are the ones continually used as window dressing by the agencies are not highly motivated to find a western man. That being said, many of these profiles originate from "real" women. You can use the agencies to obtain their contact info and try and make your pitch in-person by arranging a meeting. 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