Zeeco, the huge surge in crime is because of socialism not because the lack of socialism. When you give things away to a society who after time expects it all the time you see what will happen. The financial burden on the middle class destroys that class. There is no incentive to achieve all the things you describe that were so great about Scandanavia is now what is ruining it what is ruining the states. Its not over the top my friend it's absolute reality. C'mon. Take a look where you are looking for women at? That was the great experiement of Marx and Engels and look what happened. More people have died because of the cause of socialism/communism than any other type of Society know to man. The next great evil is at our door with Islam. I don't want to hear that it's a religion. Far from it, it's about totalitarinism than it's about religion.
Bottom line, anytime a government or a religion is the sole controlling factor over people, they are slaves and not citizens. I'll chose freedom over being a slave to one government and one single religion. Capitalism and a true free market society is mans ultimate form of freedom.
Nasfan, don't judge Islam by the actions of muslins. If you want to judge it read the koran. I think you've been watching too much Fox news and with comments like that its no surprise of whats happening in Iraq. To call it evil just shows your complete lack of understanding.
There is absoutely no difference between communism and socialism. They both proceed from the false assumption that a ruling elite knows more than the huddled masses about how to live their lives and spend their money. As a result, the ruling elite attempts to dictate to the masses the events of their lives and try to remove from the people the freedom and right to reject their edicts. And they both do it at gunpoint. The difference is that communism actually pulls the trigger.
"There is absoutely no difference between communism and socialism. "......what a load of bollocks,have you ever read anything about either????.......research the web my friend,specifically the Soviet Union from the early 20th century then come back and make some sense.
Zeke as so eloquently put by TonyTitan, there is only one difference between socialism and communism. Socialism is brought on by evolution, where communism is done by revolution. Hence his remark by the end of a gun.
So since Iím and American without class and according to you Iím not very learned. I will bring some things to light to you being you are so erudite. Socialism was first played with by the Greeks during the Golden age and it was advanced by the Philosopher Plato.
Socialism seeks the same ends as communism, but not by revolution. So in principle theory there is no significant difference between the two. Dialectical Materialism is the official Philosophy of communism and also of Socialism. A perfect example of dialectical materialism was purveyed by the Pilgrims upon their arrival to Plymouth. This almost devastated their colony and loss of many lives. Without the help of the Indians, who brought among them many qualities the value of self reliance. When this attitude was changed at Plymouth the colony flourished
The first communist revolution was not done in 1917. Francois Babeuf actually brought about the first communist revolution during the French Revolution. Well we know what happened to him.
The term communism came during the 1840ís to denote an extreme leftist form of socialism. The term came from the writings of Etienne Cabet and his theories of common ownership. Marx and Engles took this term a little further to describe the movement of class struggle by revolution of the masses to establish a society of co-operation. With this term the shortened term co-op is used to define many industries of communist/socialist countries. To co-op is ownership not by the people but by the government. All you have to do is look at your own country and read the 10 edicts of the communist manifesto and see that they have come to fruition in many countries including now the United States. The influence of communism came by the means of Marx writing editorials for a New York newspaper and British tabloid. Sorry Zeeco, I have read many times the ďCollected Works of Marx and Engles, along with the Communist manifest and Das Kapital. You are splitting hairs when you say there is a difference between socialism and communism. It is both the theft of property and liberty from a man who has worked to earn it and given to another man who didnít. Iíve dedicated my life to fight the evils of communism(socialism.) I have studied this subject since my youth and was my college curriculum. So next time you want to discuss communism with me, donít bring a knife to a gunfight. Youíre snobbery bores me to tears.
Ben2006, since my wife watches TV in Russian I very seldom watch TV so your liberalist assault on Fox News is pretty much wasted. I exercise my mind with the written word. I donít need some talking head on the boob tube to interpret the events of the day for me. The precepts of Sharia may be divided into two parts:1. Acts of worship (al-ibadat), which includes: Ritual Purification (Wudu),Prayers (Salah),Fasts (Sawm and Ramadan), Charity (Zakat) and Pilgrimage to Mecca (Hajj).
The second and the most dangerous . Human interaction (al-muamalat), which includes: which includes: Financial transactions, Endowments, Laws of inheritance, Marriage, divorce, and child care, Food and drink (including ritual slaughtering and hunting), Penal punishments, War and peace and Judicial matters (including witnesses and forms of evidence). Since Sharia law dominates Islam it is also a political document along with a religious one. Isnít this what our forefathers warned us about, separation of church and state. Since the Christian bible was written by many authors, the Quran, or Koran as you like to spell it was written by one man only Mohammed.
Since many of the prayers and reciting of the Quran is spoken in Arabic, many Muslims in the west do not understand the translation of the language. It was like me in my youth being an alter boy and reciting the Catholic mass in Latin. I learned the words but I didnít understand a word I was saying.
Before you come back and say the Christian bible is littered with violence, that was the old testament. The main edicts that are followed today are from the New Testatment which the Principle person, Jesus was labeled the Prince of Peace. Secondly Christ said those who did not deny him would see the kingdom of heaven. In the Quran, it is totally acceptable to lie to advance Islam, to save oneís life to continue Jihad another day. The word Jihad which is translated by many Islamic apologists is not ďHoly warĒ but literally ďstruggle.Ē Since Iím so spoonfed by Fox news maybe I could send you the Quran translated by Shakir, them maybe you will see where I got the real information from, not the TV Ben2006 where it seems you are fed your information or maybe moveon.org?
Zeeco, the ruling elite didn't get the immigration legislation passed did it. Also, the ruling elite is the liberal left now in the United states, a president can not create a single law, only suggest it and push it and sign it. Our ruling elite can be changed as in many socialist/communist countries it is passed down from one person to another.
Now the liberal left pushes many of the edicts of the communist manifesto which began with FDR and the Raw Deal. It died in the 50's and began to grow life again in the 60's with our wonderful cultural revolution which was socialist by it's agenda.
It seems my date in Sofia cannot make the time for me. She sounded pretty sincere when I was writing to her. As someone suggested above, it is true. These girls invite you fairly casually. They are too self-centered to consider what it takes for a man to travel to see them.
I'm still in Sofia. After last week's dollar crash, I'm transferring all my money from the the US to euros. When I first visited Sofia, $1 = 2 Leva. Now, $1 = 1.40 (on my first day here), $1 = 1.39 (on my second day here), so I converted all my carry-on cash to Leva before I got any less in days ahead.
Natalia wants me to return to Madrid. As we walked out of the metro there (when I was there), she was staring and smiling at a 3 or 4 year old black gril walking by us. Guess, she's the kind who wants security, marriage and children.
I never looked back at the girl I met in Varna, but Natalia has me under the spell of her beauty.
nasfan6, you sound just like aussieman, taking about something you have no personal experience with. Ok so maybe your googled Islam, but I don't understand why you say its the 'next evil'. Well actually I do. Just like communism was the big evil back in your day, now there has to be an new evil.
Not being a yank when I watched Fox news over there I was quite surprised how one sided it was. It not that I'm liberal, far from it! But your comment is exactly like those you would find on that channel and typical of the average american joe.
Actually my information is from working in Saudi and Kuwait not from TV.
Ben2006, I was in Iran in 1978 where were you in 1978? so being the typical american joe, and thank God there are more of them, it is from practical experience and that's when I started to learn about Islam and the Muslim fanatics. If the religion isn't about trangressing against others, then why don't the Moderate Clerics speak out against the supposed fanatics? Not a single word, also besides Iran supporting state sponsored terrorism, none has supported more than Saudi Arabia. The hypocricy to it all is Saudia Arabia was next on Saddams list. Evil can only triumph when good men do nothing. So that goes both ways the supposed moderate clerics and most of Europe, with the exception of Sarcosi, who sees it for what it is! The crusades have been fought since the seventh century. If you've done some study and research you will see how far they reached into Europe. Now they are just as far, more advanced and below the radar. Good luck, but it is what it is.
The Bottom Line is they all are united against a single Country, Isreal and are for it's destruction.
Dr. Koop I wouldn't be trading all my dollars in for Euro's just yet. As easily as the dollar drops, so can the Euro, so I would move my money into precious metals if I were you.
"Like I said don't judge Islam by the actions of muslins."
I would agree completely with you if we were discussing the religion from an academic standpoint. But we are not.
There is enough about Islam that requires the conversion of nonbelievers and the killing of those who are not willing to convert, to call it into question. Tke Koran itself contains such references. And while it can be argued that the Old Testament (or the Talmud) contains violent refernces as well, Jewish people generally do not force themselves and their beliefs on the rest of us, to the point of declaring war and calling for the death of all who do not belief. The same cannot be said about Muslims.
Well, all I'm going to say is I've been to a few Islamic countries and meet very very nice people who respect for others and make you feel welcome. They didn't want to kill me because I was not a muslim and they didn't try and convert me. And they weren't preoccuplied with destroying Isreal they were just getting on with everyday life. And that probably sums up 99.999% of the population there. You may what to think about who is actually forcing their beliefs on who here fellas.
When Muslim leaders call for a jihad (holy war) and declare "death to all infidels" (meaning all the rest of us) and thousands of loyal followers become ready made martyr by strapping bombs to themselves, taking out as many innocents as they can.
This stuff isn't being done in the name of having-a-bad-day. Its done in the name of Islam. And they CAN be judged for it.