I don't know if you remember my previous rendevouz of January-February 2007, which took me from the US to Bulgaria to Romania to Moldova to Ukraine to Poland to Czech to Germany to France to Netherlands to Germany to Austria to Hungary to Romania to Bulgaria to the US.
Anyway, I had met Natalia in Chisinau then, where she lived with her brother in an apartment building. She was gorgeous. We went on a dinner date. Next time we met on Stephan cel Mare, where she turned up with the saddest-looking face until I bought her a German facial cream, which put a million dollar smile on her, and opened her coat, which revealed the gorgeous figure behind her coat. I was as tall as her (if she removed her high heels), but that wasn't enough for her: "I'm tall, so I need a tall man." I gave her 3 Lei, waived a microbus and got her the heck out of there.
Now, she had been living in Spain for the last 5 months, where I went to see her. This time, she sounded more needy, and therefore, more promising. She picked me up at the airport. She was the pretties girl there, took me to hotel, where I gave her the presents, and she left for work with her million dollar smile. We met daily for three hours around noon for a week. Spain is hot, and accomodations are expensive because it is flooded with immigrants. Mexicans who can't even afford an airplane ticket, end up in the US. Latin and South Americans who can afford an airplane ticket choose Spain instead. No one speaks English here.
She had promised me that she would rent an apartment for us, but couldn't because her LG phone had broke down. I bought her the cheapest Nokia money could buy so she could get us an apartment. Instead, one day her sandles broke down, so we went after the shoes. Then she realized I had given her the cheapest phone money could buy so she began asking for a higher end Nokia model. One day we walked and walked after the phone. It got so bad that I, being in my 40'couldn't keep up with this girl in her 20's. But because she couldn't find her desirable model, here's what she said: "What did you do for me today?"
Forget the rental, she's been asking for a condo here in both of our names as a pre-condition to marriage. I suggested a legal contract stating that party filing for divorce would quit claim to the condo to judge her sincerity, until I realized that I'll be the party that will end up filing for a divorce.
Anyone else noticed that all CIS chicks are like this, or is it just me?
Having said that, its not MY JOB to moralize of course. To each his own. Yours would not be the first marriage based on the wealth of a guy and the beauty (seiness) of a woman. All participants in a relationship bring a bundle of attributes to the table. If they are acceptable by each of the parties in turn - let the whole world be damned if they want to put a stop to your doing what is right for YOU.
But fellers, she is truly gorgeous. If you could only see her, you too would melt. She is one of those girls that have everything proportionate and perfect, and if she were to stand next to the girls whom you had been lusting after until then, she would put them all to shame.
Well, she wasn't invited by a Spanish guy or anything. She saved up from guys wiring her money. Now, she could've dated and married a Spanish guy, but she wouldn't because she is a "one man woman." It's the Original Sin story all over again. I'm her Antonio Benderas.
Antonio Benderas so you went all the way to Spain to see her and she spent 3 hours around midday each day with you only? I think she is as gorgeous as you are stupid. Although I wonder if any of this is true.
Dr. Koop - you sound all starry-eyed as if you know you are haeaded for problems with this one, but you don't particularly care.
She is only available for you three hours a day around noon? H-m-m-m... So what do you suppose she is doing during the other 21 hours of the day?
She didn't just want the condo in HER name, alone?
She had guys wiring her money on a regualr basis? Either there are quite a few guys out there who don't follow our cardinal rule ("Don't send money to a girl you haven't met.") OR they HAVE met her - and are sending her money.... maybe for their allotment of time when you aren't there?
Dr. Koop, I know that you are s smart guy. Step back and realize what you are saying. Is this really what you want... I mean to be married to?
Im sorry but with all due respect, I can not imasgine crossing the street to meet a woman (no matter how pretty) that surports herself with donations from other men.
Would a man actually think about marrying such a women?
I can not understand so many men still trying to buy a woman and then crying because it blows up in their face.
Woman cannot multi task. If you are in the mode of buying them things in the beginning, all they will ever see you as,till their dieing day, is a shopping trip. Is it all any surprise.
DRKoop, you asked in your original post "Anyone else noticed that all CIS chicks are like this, or is it just me?"
And then you go on to explain your actions by saying how beautiful she is. YOU are enabling her behavior. It's no wonder that you think all CIS women are gold diggers, because that's the kind of woman you go for.
The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over, expecting different results.
If it makes you all feel any better, I felt so ill treated that day over "Did you do anything for me today?" thing that I left Madrid without telling her. Next day, I received an email on how she stopped by my hotel and didn't find me there. Since then, she's been writing to me. I've been offering to wire her some money to test her, but it sounds that she wants me there.
She works from 2 to 7. So, she has to be gone by 1 pm until 8 pm. I went to the address she gave me, and like in Chisinau, it's the right address, which gives me some comfort. She lives with 3 other Uki girls there at the end of the metro line - an area full of immigrants. Sometimes she sounds somewhat childish. But when she smiles, it is truly a million dollar smile.
I just like to be around girls who are a head turner. I'm addicted to beauty. I've seen a few other Russian girls there on the street, but they weren't nearly as beautiful.
I really came to Europe to get settled. I needed a really gorgeous girl to sell my imports to the shops, and I want to get my EU papers thru her. Only wish she was established there, but then, she wouldn't need me, would she?
I've lived in other parts of the world enough to know that women expect a lot more than they do back home. Only in the US, you have women paying for things even when she has a man on her side. So, I don't find her as unusual as you all do.
To be honest Doc I am always pleased to see men chasing after these totally self absorbed women, because it means there are so many more good women for me to choose from. It seems there is someone for everyone. In reality I think men create these women. Would she be the way she is if men did not keep mailing the cheques?
Why was it that you were not picking her up after work at 8? Much better to be taking them out when the shops are closed. Other benefits to. Few drinks after dark and everything starts looking better )
Go back and reread Dr. Koops post's. He's always in charge of the situation, according to him. His knowledge about US Consulate corruption is beyond reproach according to him. He is a strong advocate for attacking the great evil of American government. Do you think for one moment that he would write such a weak kneed post. He has reminded me too many times that he is a Physician with intellect way beyond mine.
This whole thread is a fraud just to again, demean the women, of the FSU, though I like he used the CIS acronymn this time to show how erudite he is. Another ridiculous thread. He isn't smitten with any girl, he's just out attacking in his callous way.
Thanks Doc for the information that there are women out there to get your money, though you forgot they will do the same here in the states. Better get going, I hear the engines on the Black Helicopter revving up and AJ and Amir don't want to miss the movie on the flight, You know "Loose Change" written by some snot nosed 20 something guys.
We might disagree on this but I think Dr. Koop is genuine. (Okay, genuinely misguided, but genuine).
Not all of us are after the same thing. Even those with genuine marriage intentions.
Some here want a nice FSU (CIS) woman to settle down with. They want someone pure of heart to start a family with and to live in a nice little house with a picket dence all around it. And that's great. Its a wonderful goal. A guy with an urge to either have children or to have a sweet lady to spend the twilight years of his life with might go for that whole hog.
But some guy maybe were too career oriented in the earlier parts of their lives, maybe they weren't particularly attractive, maybe they di what was expected of them (according to the norms of society) and now they just want something a little out of the ordinary.
If Dr. Koop is to be believed (which I am not entirely sure about either) he has reported in the past that he made a significant amount of money on some dot com startup before everything went bust. So now the guy has enough money that he doesn't know what to do with it all. He's making a casual world tour for some time now and during that period he got a real head turner to notice him. I get the impression that, unlike you and I, he doesn't CARE if he loses a wad on this.
He's found a disingenuous girl who pays attetnion to him for the money he has got. This guy is on an adventure that he would be able to experience in the states with a simiar woman REGARDLESS of the money he has.
He writing like a kid who almost BRAGGING about the naughty things he's doing and the circumstances he's having an adventure with. Things that fly in the face of what conservative people might do instead.
To be honest - I know where he is coming from. I'm a little older. My living son is grown. I'm certainly willing to settle down and have a family again, if it turns out that this lady I am seeing is really who I think that she is. But under slightly different circumstances, if I had a BIG WAD OF CASH I might be willing to go on a round the world adventure and try to hook up with the most beautiful woman I could (marry?). After all, what does he have to lose except money? And if that doesn't make any difference, what does it matter.
Oh... and under those circumstance I must admit I would be likely to write to the forum and brag about my misadventures, for the attention I might get. Almost bragging that I was doing all the wrong things. What would I have to lose?