I don't believe the Korean007 incident was a crime, as I recall it was speculated that the cockpit crew had misinput'd data into the instrument navigation system and may well have been asleep when they strayed into Russian airspace whilst not answering radio calls and, let's face it, Korea's airlines have a shit ... well they just don't have a safety record.
To name but three incidents there was Korean Airlines at Guam and London/Stansted and, more recently, Asiana at San Fransisco.
And if "previous form" may be a determining factor then don't let the Iran Air 655 incident be forgotten!
Obama has no clue of what is going on in the world or what is right or wrong. Hey dumbass!!! What is happening in Ukraine with what is referred to as pro Russian separatists, is a criminal act and a cease fire is absolutely inappropriate because it gives credibility to the criminals. This is not a protest it is treason internally and an act of war by Russia. Ramp it up, hunt them down and kill them, they have taken up arms against their countrymen, the world and humanity!
When Putin accused Ukraine of cross border ordinance destroying a farm, killing one man and that it would have consequences earlier this week, it is that which has has prompted this downing of an aircraft. It is his decision, the directives come from him. The world now feels engaged, well it now legitimately belongs at his doorstep, not only at the doorstep of those insignificant people in Ukraine. Narcissistic bastards, why should you feel so insulated from this aggression?
The rebels had been boasting that they had the BUK SAM system and they claimed that they had captured it from the Ukraine military.
Now depending who one believes the Ukraine military deny having lost a BUK system and IF that is true then it could only have been Russia, Putin, that provided the rebels with the capability to bring down MH17.
And, by all accounts, this BUK system is quite a complex piece of kit and it takes training to learn how to use it ... So who has been training the rebels to bring down aircraft?
I don't believe it is inappropriate to ask for a ceasefire, killing each other achieves very little and, sooner or later, both sides need to settle their differences and stop killing each other.
We don't know what action is being considered behind closed doors, I believe they know the person(s) responsible and if the yanks can go in to Pakistan to "take out" Bin Laden, if the yanks can go in to Libya to "take out" the guy alleged to be responsible for the Benghazi embassy/consulate, then I'm pretty damn sure Special Forces can go in to Ukraine to "take out" this person(s) and I wouldn't be surprised if American and/or British Special Forces were already en-route.
With due respect USA lost only one national, Netherlands lost 189 nationals, Malaysia 44 etc. and I'd suggest now be the time to respect the dead and their families and not the appropriate time to be threatening WWIII or similar.
There are sure to be repercussions but they need to be sat down, calculated, discussed and considered actions and not be fired from the hip as a knee jerk reaction.
“Australian Prime Minister Tony Abbott was also quick to condemn Putin's remarks as well. "They [the militants] are Russian proxies essentially," he said. "This is only happening because Russia wants to stir up trouble." “
As I wrote insignificant Ukrainians. They should endure this on their own soil? Why do you think that Crimea was invaded without signified troops? This action was put into effect years ago with the traitor convict Yanukovich's dismantling of the military and robbing the treasury. If the calmer more enlightened will not stand up, remain focused and truly support right, then Ukraine should force their hand. Surrender Dorothy? This ain't Oz and Putin is no wizard.
An escalation of sanctions against Russia had already been announced before this act of terrorism, this "war crime", I think Putin's days may just be numbered ...
Putin's underpants have clearly turned a shade of brown trying to excuse himself that the responsibility for this act lies with the territorial government ... Well just how is the government in eastern Ukraine defined during these times because the Putin backed "terrorists" have declared their own governments?
Putin, if he ever had any, is losing friends and support around the globe by the day, by the hour.
"Obama is crushing the Reagan link—and Putin knows it
Across his remarkably successful presidency, Ronald Reagan repeatedly made the link between the U.S. economy and U.S. international security and defense. He consistently argued that weakness at home leads to weakness abroad.
Reagan was aiming at the dismal Carter years. But he understood for all times that economic strength at home sends a powerful signal for international security overseas.
When Reagan went to Reykjavik to meet with Mikhail Gorbachev, he believed the resurgent American economy would hammer the nails on the coffin of Soviet communism. And he explained to Gorbachev that if the Soviets didn't come to the negotiating table with nuclear weapons, the U.S. would out-produce them on nukes and with technological superiority. Similarly, Reagan would not give up his vision for strategic missile defense.
And in both cases — building nukes and SDI — Reagan knew the American economy had the resources capable of achieving these goals, while the sinking Soviet economy couldn't match us.
In the end, the Soviet system imploded in one of the greatest reversals in world history. Freedom won. Communism lost.
Now, circumstances are somewhat different today. But the horrible Malaysia Airlines crash in Ukraine highlights some worrisome facts about American-Russian relations. Mitt Romney was right. Russia is our biggest threat.
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We know that the Malaysian plane was brought down by a ground-to-air missile fired from Russian-made SA-11 weapons run by pro-Russian Ukranian rebel terrorists. We also know that Russia is fighting a proxy war with the U.S. in Ukraine, and that Russian special forces are leading the terrorist movement in Ukraine. We can add to this the proxy war fought by Russia in the Middle East, with its main ally Iran, and the fact that Russia is engaging in state-sponsored terrorism.
Whether President Obama understands all this, I don't know. His policies have been alternatively passive (Libya, Egypt), incoherent (Russian reset), and feckless (Syria). But the fact that the current U.S. economic recovery is the slowest in post-WWII history — spanning 70 years — is surely a key factor in Vladimir Putin's adventurism.
This brings us back to Reagan's link. Putin may recognize that Russia's economy is a thin deck of cards. But he surely doesn't fear the weak American economic position. Ditto for the broken economic dictatorships in North Korea, Iran, and Venezuela, and the rising economic dictatorship in China. They don't fear us.
In fact, America's economic weakness is so worrying, one suspects our friends are losing respect for us too. Whether in Europe, Asia, Latin America, or Israel, our allies know that America has been the backstop for freedom. If not us, who?
But can they say that now?
As I testified this week before the congressional Joint Economic Committee, at 2.1 percent average real growth, the U.S. is lagging far behind the 4.1 percent average recovery pace of the post-war business cycles. The Reagan recovery averaged 5 percent annual growth at the same point as the Obama recovery.
Obama's stock market, from the depth of the meltdown, does beat Reagan's market and the post-war average for equities. But here's a very worrisome trend: Over the entire post-war period, average yearly growth has been 3.2 percent. And in the 1980s and '90s, growth was 3.7 percent. Since 2001, however, under Republican and Democratic presidents and congresses, as the dollar lost over a third of its value growth has dropped to only 1.8 percent annually. Something has clearly gone very wrong.
For payrolls, Obama's five-year recovery has averaged annual job growth of 1.2 percent (7.9 million jobs). Reagan's was 3.1 percent (14.6 million jobs). Even with the recent jobs improvement, record numbers of Americans have dropped out of the labor force, part-time employment is replacing full-time, wages are abnormally low, and middle-class real incomes are falling.
The massive federal spending stimulus of 2009-2010 did not work
There were no so-called fiscal multipliers. The Federal Reserve's near-$3.5 trillion of balance-sheet creation also failed, with money multipliers and velocity rates collapsing. Obamacare has thrown a wet blanket over business hiring, hours worked, and full-time jobs. Business investment and housing have not really recovered.
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Over-regulation has stifled Main Street businesses and start-ups. The highest corporate tax rate among developed countries is forcing American businesses to flee to lower-tax nations, taking their cash and jobs with them. Tax hikes on personal income, capital gains, dividends, and payrolls are reducing growth incentives.
Ronald Reagan's free-enterprise growth model of easier taxes, limited government, lighter regulation, and sound money strengthened America both at home and abroad. Barack Obama's model of heavy-handed government, income redistribution, punishing success, and cheap money
has diminished us at home and weakened us around the world.
Caveat emptor, voters. It's truly time for change. "
—By CNBC's Larry Kudlow.
"Go grab yourself a bag of popcorn, sit down, and watch the show":
"Russian president Vladimir Putin has marched into a corner—having opted for war to halt Ukraine’s courtship with the West, he now faces international opprobrium and the probability of stinging new sanctions over the Malaysian Airlines crash.
While it is early and Putin may yet terminate his dual military and propaganda offensives against Ukraine and the West, the signs are by and large not of a man seeking a way out. Rather, Russia seems to be keeping to its pre-crash narrative.
Edward Lucas, a Russia expert at the Economist, suggests that the problem is the corner itself: even if he wanted to shift course, Putin has little room to maneuver after months of building a forceful domestic case—and his people into a frenzy—against outside enemies. He can’t back down from the brink, Lucas told Quartz in an email exchange. It would be “too humiliating now that he has demonized the West and Ukraine.”
It is a relief to read a post from the humanitarian Danny. I feared that he was on his way to the AIDS symposium.
Destroying a crime scene when all the civilized world knows the drill is consciousness of guilt and a further crime. Even "Dyslexics the Great understands it. He is just a "Boris Bitch" and fears the machine. When he returns home he should change his name to Lee Harvey Duntwald. He is just a Patsy
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